For a while now, I have had a growing unease about Fox’s upcoming reboot of their Fantastic Four franchise and the latest word from screenwriter and producer Simon Kinberg is only stoking those concerns. Speaking at WonderCon this past weekend in Los Angeles, Kinberg revealed that the film was already in production in Baton Rogue before commenting and bit on what tone director Josh Trank was heading for with the film.
As [Bryan] Singer created with the original ‘X-Men’ movies, Christopher Nolan created with the ‘Dark Knight’ movies, Jon Favreau and Marvel created with the ‘Iron Man’ movies, all the best superhero franchises – Sam Raimi did it with with ‘Spider-Man’ – they create a tone and that is the thing that defines them… It’s not the stories that differentiate them from each other. Sometimes the characterizations aren’t that distinct. It’s that the tone is different and in some ways [that’s because of the] lessons learned from the original ‘Fantastic Four’ movies, but also because of Josh Trank’s natural instinct for more realism, for more of a dramatic approach to things. This will definitely be a more realistic, a more gritty, grounded telling of the ‘Fantastic Four’ and no matter what people think about the cast.
(Emphasis mine on the last line.)
While I will agree that tone is very important – see the differences between Nolan’s Batman films and the 1960s television version for perhaps the most extreme examples of how tone can affect how one uses a character – I don’t think that a “gritty” tone is the one to go for with a property like the Fantastic Four. If anything it is the exact wrong tone to be aiming for.
I would hazard a guess and say that Fox executives saw the grosses for Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy of Batman films and wanted similar results, so they found someone, in this case Trank, who was interested in delivering just that. But a read of any decent run of the comic, especially if one goes back to the series’ earliest days in the 1960s, quickly shows that the series isn’t about gritty realism. At the core of the series was the sense of family between the four heroes that was always presented in a lighthearted manner. The back-and-forth between Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm is the superhero equivalent of brothers good-naturedly horsing around.
Admittedly, this seems to be a hard dynamic to get right. Fox’s previous two Fantastic Four films were at least aiming for it, but whether it was the screenplay, the direction from Tim Story or a combination of the two, the films never quite hit the mark. If anything, the officially unreleased 1994 Fantastic Four, for all its faults, was closer to capturing that feeling than anyone else has been able to so far. And it sounds to me that the record may remain unbroken for some time to come.
Via HitFlix.
Josh Trank Giving Us What Nobody Asked For… A “Realistic” And “Gritty” FANTASTIC FOUR http://t.co/lz0CXND6eC
This just keeps getting better and better, and by that I mean not at all.
I can’t wait to see the gritty and realistic Care Bears movie.
Everyone is taking the “Dark Knight” approach!
Gritty and realistic doesn’t necessarily mean humorless, folks. It just means that the studio’s looking at how other filmmakers have interpreted a broad range of characters and attempting to use the same “formula” on this franchise.
My biggest problem is that the studio is confusing “gritty and realistic” with simple respect for the source material.
No wonder Disney is releasing the sequel to “The Incredibles” the same year Fox is rebooting FF. Pixar will show them how it’s done. AGAIN.
Couldn’t agree more –> Josh Trank Giving Us What Nobody Asked For… A “Realistic” And “Gritty” FANTASTIC FOUR – http://t.co/0iU2iT7cG2
This is why Hollywood is stupid. They look to the Dark Knight and are blinded by the fact that it made a lot of money and was dark and gritty. They don’t realize that the character lent itself to dark grittiness and all comic book characters are different. They just think if we make a dark and gritty comic book film, people will come running. They are so blinded that they even thing Iron Man was dark and gritty, completely ignoring the boatloads of humor through out. It wasn’t dark and gritty, it was serious.There’s a difference. And it was… Read more »
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So when it doesn’t fail because most people like the Nolan-ized superheroes now, are you going to kill yourself to leave this world?
I originally had a snarky comeback, then realized that I work for the site, so I had to use a little more decorum. That said,no, @Ron T, you don’t have to worry. That “don’t want to live in the world” comment was a bit of hyperbole said in the heat of the moment. My life is much to good to end it. However, I do have to straighten you out on a point you are confused about. “Nolanization,” as you call it, isn’t just making things more grim and gritty. It’s boiling down the source character to its core values,… Read more »